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RN8 Sora by nyoblack RN8 Sora by nyoblack
imagen encontrada en we heart love, la imagen no me pertenece solo la recorte
espero les guste

ciao :]
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image found on We Heart love, the image is not mine only cuts
hope you like

ciao:]
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ClockWorkLemons Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice work, you've done a pretty damn good job at deepetching that.

To all you naysayers out there, this only marginally borders on theft. If it was a copypasta job, with an exact copy of the original artwork uploaded here, then I can understand the claims. However, this is a modified piece, deepetched to that it may be used/placed on other backgrounds - often seen on minimalist wallpapers. At no point does the uploader state that they personally created the artowrk themselves.

If you find this 'theft' (of which it is not) to be such an issue, what's next? Are you going to tell the countless vector artists around (of whom I count myself among) that what we do is also theft, and we should stop?
Grow up people.
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H3AR7 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
its still wrong.
If someone took one of my OC pictures, vectored it and uploaded it here with credits to me because they liked it it would be still against the rules.

Is it that hard to understand?
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ClockWorkLemons Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I suppose it depends on the limits of what you consider to be your artwork. Creating a vector of a piece of art involves completely recreating the artwork in another medium, so it hardly counts as theft of the original author's art in and of itself. If you feel like being completely anal about it, you could go on about the character/whatever itself, but at that point it crosses from a physical (or digital, whatever) medium into intellectual property, which is rather fuzzy.

In the case of this particular artwork, it's a bit more definite, though I still don't see why everyone is making such a fuss over it. If they have such a problem, they they should stop making worthless posts on the page for the content, and actually seek assistance from the site staff.

Judging by the sheer numbers of both renders (such as this here), and vectors around here, I really don't see that much will happen.

Also keep in mind that (and this is a fact, not an opinion), anything at all that is uploaded to the internet, irrespective of copyright claims, is open to everyone should they know what they are doing. I guess the message here is to not be so precious about it.
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H3AR7 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So rendering is like... doing the same artwork in another program.
My artwork is what I created with my own hand, it diesnt matter if on paper or digitally. The composition, character, colors, every line is mine.

Well... its like tracing, I guess?
Its still just copying what someone else already has done.
Even if it takes hours and hours to recreate it in another program/medium.
When I download a picture from here, and the creator does not say I can use it for tracing (or rendering), and I trace it 1 to 1 onto paper, reupload it and say it is made by someone else I just traced it, it is against the rules.
The problem is that so many people don't care, like you don't care.

I could, in fact, report every render on this site including yours.
If enough people would do so, you would have to delete them or worse.

And this commenting thing...
I think they try to bring the message to people by writing comments on their renders/vectors as well as tracings and (the worst) stolen artworks so other people see that it is against the Rules. That they doi something they can be reported for.

And just because it's "open to anyone" does not mean everyone can use it.
YOu can't just use a song you love to remix it without the approvement of the singer/songwriter etc.
Try it on youtube for example. YOu will get a strike and the vid will be deleted.
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ClockWorkLemons Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I see no point in taking this any further, your opinion and stance on this matter clearly differs to that of mine, and I can't see this discussion going anywhere but a heated argument over not a great deal.

If you feel so strongly on the subject, please, by all means, report them all. It'll be a big job.
I will be interested to see what comes of it.
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IknowWhatYouTraced Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013
It's perfectly fine IF and only IF you have the original artist's permission. We can agree on that, right?
FAQ #257: What sort of permission do I need to use someone else's work?
FAQ #306: Does "Crediting" let me use whatever I want?
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ClockWorkLemons Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
For instances such as the artwork we are commenting on, yes, to a point, though I don't see the need to throw a hissy about it.
For cases such as vector art, not in particular, as it is no longer the original artist's actual art, but a representation of it. Fanart, if you will.
As state previously, clearly a difference of opinion is in effect here, so I doubt a reasonable compromise will be met in any manner of time.
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Kalima-Avarnius Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Agreed.
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Kalima-Avarnius Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Guys come on.

Nowhere did this person state that this artwork was ORIGINALLY theirs. Yes Deviant art states that there is a copyright rule, but This person isn't taking credit for the image at all. They like KH so they put up a picture of KH no need to start arguments. I'll be the first person to agree that stealing someones art work is wrong, especially if they claim it as their own but this person isn't.

So let it rest.


By the way, i love Kingdom Hearts :)
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Rejected-Letterbomb Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
It's still against the rules, regardless of the crediting.
FAQ #306: Does "Crediting" let me use whatever I want?
You need to read the rules before spreading opinions/information because you're spreading the wrong ones.
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